Felipe Pena, a BJJ Black Belt and multiple-time world champion, dives into his intense rivalry with Gordon Ryan, emphasizing the need for a fifth match. He shares insights on why he’s eager to face Victor Hugo and discusses the competitive landscape of gi versus no-gi events. Pena elaborates on his training regimens, competition strategies, and the mental toughness required to excel in Jiu-Jitsu. Additionally, he reflects on memorable matches and the camaraderie within the grappling community, showcasing the blend of humor, resilience, and passion for the sport.