Eva Xiao, a data journalist at the Financial Times, and Joe Miller, the U.S. legal correspondent, dive into the ongoing specter of election denialism as the 2024 presidential race looms. They unpack how Trump and his allies are casting doubt on future votes, while exploring the surge in litigation from right-wing groups aimed at electoral integrity. The discussion also highlights the challenges of misinformation in a decentralized election system and examines positive changes in voting practices catalyzed by COVID-19.