Eric Fanning

Eric Fanning, the CEO of the Aerospace Industries Association and former U.S. Army Secretary, dives into the challenges facing the defense industry. He discusses the impact of uncertain budgets and acquisition reforms on the industrial base. Fanning highlights the need for transparency and bipartisan support to make reforms successful. He also addresses the lessons learned from Ukraine regarding capability integration. Concerns about government equity stakes in defense firms are raised, as well as the importance of creating space for new market entrants.

Former Wisconsin congressman Steve Gunderson talks about being the first openly gay Republican in Congress. Pennsylvania Congressman Brendan Boyle and Secretary of the Army Eric Fanning, the first openly gay service head in the U.S. Military, join later. The podcast analyzes episode seven of The West Wing, explores the Defense of Marriage Act, discusses product placements, and touches on government responsibility and affordable education. The hosts also talk about the challenges of compromise in political work and the lack of political change compared to progress on social issues.