2.07: The Portland Trip (with Secretary of the Army Eric Fanning, Congressman Brendan Boyle, and Fmr. Congressman Steve

Former Wisconsin congressman Steve Gunderson talks about being the first openly gay Republican in Congress. Pennsylvania Congressman Brendan Boyle and Secretary of the Army Eric Fanning, the first openly gay service head in the U.S. Military, join later. The podcast analyzes episode seven of The West Wing, explores the Defense of Marriage Act, discusses product placements, and touches on government responsibility and affordable education. The hosts also talk about the challenges of compromise in political work and the lack of political change compared to progress on social issues.