In this discussion, Erica Cartmill, a cognitive science professor, and Ellie Pavlick, a computer science and linguistics expert, dive into the intricate nature of assessing intelligence. They critique traditional IQ tests while exploring historical perspectives on intelligence. The duo highlights communication differences between humans and animals, shedding light on social cognition. They also discuss the challenges in evaluating large language models, questioning conventional assessments and redefining what it means to understand intelligence across species.