In this lively discussion, Ed Buckner, a prominent secular organizer and author known for his work in religious liberty, dives into hot-button issues surrounding gender identity and ethics. He passionately argues against accusations of bigotry in debates inspired by biologist Jerry Coyne. The conversation explores the nuances of pronoun usage, the implications for transgender youth, and the ethical responsibilities in discussions about vulnerable populations. Humor and philosophical insights weave throughout, urging a deeper understanding of identity and public discourse.