In this engaging chat, Dr. Scott McLean, a Senior Research Fellow and award-winning football coach, delves into complexity and systems thinking in sports. He emphasizes the importance of a multidisciplinary approach to enhance performance and tackle challenges in athletics. Scott discusses anti-doping systems, advocating for holistic reforms instead of blaming athletes. He also critiques accountability in football, highlighting successful club models. Lastly, he explores the implications of talent and recognition for young athletes within systemic dynamics.