Dr. Norman Fenton and Dr. Martin Neil, both professors at Queen Mary University of London, dive into the misuse of mathematics in various fields, from military technology to health sciences. They discuss how Bayesian statistics can enhance reliability assessments and help unpack statistical misinterpretations in legal cases, particularly concerning forensic evidence. The conversation also tackles the manipulation of pandemic data and its implications for public trust in health narratives, urging for critical thinking and transparency in the statistical discourse.