Dr. Bates Gill, Executive Director at the Asia Society Policy Institute, and Professor Rory Medcalf, Head of the National Security College, share their insights on the AUKUS pact. They discuss whether AUKUS can effectively counter China’s growing military influence in the Indo-Pacific. The conversation covers Australia’s substantial investment in nuclear submarines and the political complexities at play. They also examine China’s critical response, the role of the UK post-Brexit, and the implications for regional stability. Will AUKUS reshape defense strategies?