Dev Ojha and Nick Spooner, authors of the Fractal transparent SNARK construction, discuss how Fractal improves on earlier work, its differences from STARKs, and the discovery of recursive SNARKs. They explore the relationship between Fractal and Aurora, the role of oracles in DeFi, efficient recursion in transparent SNARKs, and the process of converting a construction. They also discuss collaboration between academic groups and the cryptographic implications of snarks.