David Seymour, Rahui Papa, Natalie Coates, and Maiki Sherman discuss redefining Treaty of Waitangi principles, addressing socioeconomic disparities, legal challenges to settlement, criticisms of proposed principles, social disparities faced by Maori, and the significance of Tinurangatilatanga in the Treaty of Waitangi.

David Seymour, the Act Party Leader and Associate Justice Minister, engages in a heated dialogue with Debbie Ngarewa-Packer, Co-leader of Te Pāti Māori. They dissect the Treaty Principles Bill, examining its implications for Māori rights and political representation. The contrasting views reveal deep divides over ancestry-based categorization and the importance of understanding historical contexts. They reflect on New Zealand's unique approach to race relations and advocate for a more inclusive future amidst rising tensions surrounding identity and governance.