Steve Obert, a fifth-generation dairy farmer and Executive Director of Indiana Dairy Producers, discusses the agricultural labor crisis fueled by reliance on unauthorized workers. Daniel Costa, an expert in immigration law and policy, joins him to explore the significant dependence of U.S. agriculture on undocumented labor, revealing that over 40% of farm hands lack legal status. They examine historical policies, the pressing need for reform, and how wage increases for farm workers could minimally impact grocery prices, all while grappling with complex immigration dynamics.