Steve Matthews, a countercult apologist, and Coltin Rohn, a former ICC member turned RCW leader, dive deep into the recent split within the International Christian Church. They discuss the emotional toll on departing members and explore varying perspectives on unity and leadership. Coltin shares firsthand experiences and motivations behind the exodus, while Steve critiques the ICC's historical controversies and challenges in authority. Together, they propose a return to scriptural teachings, urging followers to navigate these turbulent waters with clarity and faith.