In a candid conversation, Chris Roberts, a CISO, hacker, researcher, and advisor, shares his insights into the cybersecurity landscape. He discusses the dual battles security practitioners face against both adversaries and unhelpful vendors, emphasizing the need for genuine relationships in marketing. Chris highlights frustrations with industry shortcomings and the importance of transparency and education in vendor-customer interactions. His call for authentic connections and proactive solutions resonates in an often cynical world, advocating for a community-driven approach.