Chantelle Gray, a Professor at Northwest University and author of "Anarchism After Deleuze and Guadagni, Fabulating Futures," dives into the intersections of anarchism and the philosophies of Deleuze and Guattari. She discusses challenging statist realism and the superficiality of political change while advocating for deep societal transformation. The conversation touches on reimagining care in a digitized world and emphasizes the importance of community in resisting state and capitalist influences. Exciting new philosophical endeavors also pave the way for future explorations.