Celeste Wallander

Celeste Wallander, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, and Peter Frankopan, an Oxford University professor of global history, tackle the controversial Trump national security strategy. They discuss its European backlash and how it aligns with Russia's interests. Wallander emphasizes the importance of Europe for U.S. security, while Frankopan warns against underestimating Russia and China's strategic narratives. Together, they explore Europe's military capabilities and the implications for Ukraine's future settlements.