Amanpour Rough Seas for the Transatlantic Alliance
Dec 13, 2025
Celeste Wallander, a former U.S. Defense Department official, shares insights on U.S.-Europe relations amid rising tensions, discussing NATO's crucial role in U.S. security interests. She highlights the importance of European agreement on Ukraine policy, while historian Peter Frankopan weighs in on Europe's defense independence. Additionally, the conversation touches on Syria's post-Assad challenges and the controversial 'Pink Ladies' protest movement in Britain, reflecting current societal fears linked to immigration and safety.
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Europe Is Strategically Vital To US Security
- Celeste Wallander argues the US national security strategy is internally inconsistent about Europe's role.
- She says NATO and European bases are vital to US defense and not mere altruism.
MAGA Frames Europe As Disposable
- Peter Frankopan says MAGA leaders view Europe as a "decaying" continent dispensable to the US.
- He warns aligning with Russia would be a risky historical bet for America.
Don't Undervalue Allied Bases And Access
- Celeste Wallander advises the US cannot replace Europe's logistical and basing support alone.
- She urges policymakers to remember NATO protects American homeland interests.
