Dr. Scott Frey, a specialist in perceived exertion, joins cycling commentator Brent Bookwalter in a fascinating discussion about the mental aspects of athletic performance. They explore how our brains perceive effort and how to manipulate this perception for improved endurance. The conversation dives into Project Tailwind, focusing on mental training for amateur athletes, and emphasizes the importance of mental resilience alongside physical training. They also touch on cognitive load, self-efficacy, and how these elements can push athletes beyond their limits.