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Brad Joffe
CCO of Apate AI, a company that deploys AI bots to combat scammers. He discusses how his company is fighting back against online fraud using AI.
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Aug 5, 2025
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AI vs. Scammers: Inside the New War on Fraud with Frank McKenna
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Frank McKenna, a prominent fraud expert and creator of a newsletter on AI, joins Brad Joffe, CCO of Apate AI, to discuss an innovative approach to fighting online scams. They explore how AI bots are deployed to engage and disrupt scammers, collecting essential intelligence along the way. Brad shares fascinating strategies employed by banks like Commonwealth to use these bots effectively. With compelling audio examples, they illustrate the bots' uncanny conversational skills and showcase how technology can turn the tide against fraud.
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