Guests Binya Koatz and daph ben david discuss Shabbatean trans love poetry in Ladino, trancestors in the Torah, and analysis on Frankism. They explore Shabbatai's gender complexity and the revolutionary shifts in Judaism caused by the Frankists. They also talk about Shabbatai's enduring status as a queer icon and share details about pronunciation, a hotline, and Patreon support.