Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian, an expert on China's economic miracle and its growing power, discusses the decline of China's economy in 2023 due to negative foreign direct investment. They explore China's evolving role in the global economy, the impact on China's supply chains, and its influence in developing countries.

Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian, an Axios reporter and author of "Beijing Rules," dives into the complexities of China's quest for global influence and its economic strategies that leverage coercion. She outlines how Western companies navigate ethical dilemmas, such as forced labor in Xinjiang, and the impact of censorship on media and markets. The conversation also critiques Western trade policies in relation to authoritarian practices and discusses the concept of an 'economic NATO' to combat Chinese economic coercion. Insightful, timely, and thought-provoking!