Ben Hopkins and Morton LeGarthe, creative directors in London, discuss their innovative AI project, Daisy, designed to combat phone scams. They humorously narrate the challenges faced during scam calls, showcasing Daisy's clever interactions with scammers. The conversation touches on the rise of grandparent scams, emphasizing resilience among the elderly, and highlights the darker side of AI in facilitating deception. Personal anecdotes and engaging banter provide insights into the creative process behind DAISY, making this a captivating exploration of technology and its implications.