Edith Hall, a Professor of Classics at Durham University and expert on Greek tragedy, is captivated by Sophocles' works and offers critiques of modern adaptations of 'Oedipus.' Barnaby Phillips, a writer specializing in colonial history, discusses the absurdities of King Leopold's 19th-century expedition to the Congo, which aimed to exploit trained elephants. Their conversation dives into the complexities of interpreting ancient texts and the dark legacy of colonial ambitions, exposing the moral implications of such historical narratives.