Barbara Perry, a professor of presidential studies at the University of Virginia, dives into the ramifications of Trump’s Supreme Court appointments. She discusses pivotal rulings on abortion rights and affirmative action, examining their long-term impacts ahead of the 2024 election. The conversation highlights the tension between the court's conservative decisions and public sentiment, particularly regarding presidential immunity. Perry also touches on how sports narratives, like those of the U.S. soccer teams, might intertwine with political aspirations.

Prof. Barbara Perry joins Kate to explore the tragic history of the Kennedy family, discussing the concept of the Kennedy Curse and its impact. They delve into the family's pursuit of the American dream and the history of their risk-taking. The episode also examines the phenomenon of political dynasties in American politics, including the Kennedys, the Bushes, the Clintons, and the Obamas.