Averie Swanson, longtime saison brewer and founder of Keeping Together, discusses exploring flavor in saison with unconventional grain bases, downplaying Brettanomyces in mixed culture fermentation, and using acidity as an element of structure. They also touch on the influence of Tank Seven, the importance of local ingredients, creative brewing within constraints, and unique flavor experiences like using spent fornet botanicals that tasted like granola.

Averie Swanson of Keeping Together interviews Blake Tyers of Creature Comforts Brewing Company. They discuss the importance of beer journalism, personal journeys in the industry, creating value and growth within a brewery, transitioning and artistic pursuits, brewing as a symphonic expression, the state of the brewing industry, Gen Z drinking habits and innovation, types of beers, and finding joy in connecting with others.

Lindsay Barr interviews Averie Swanson, a master cicerone and brewer of Keeping Together. They discuss collaborative brewing, the power of words, challenges of financing, their love for the Southwest, and their fascination with roadrunners.