Entrepreneur Marc Lore and Luminar CEO Austin Russell discuss resilience, autonomous driving tech, and the challenges of kitchen delivery. They delve into achieving moonshots, embracing exponential change, and the entrepreneurial journey.

Austin Russell, founder of Luminar Technologies, shares his journey of creating revolutionary autonomous vehicle technology in stealth mode for five years. He discusses the importance of focusing on building a finished product quietly and the interest it generated within the automobile industry. The chapter also explores the significance of embracing a beginner's mindset and the role of marketing in amplifying the product.

Regular listeners of Decoder know car CEOs love coming on the show. There is a lot of change in the car industry, a lot of big ideas about how to manage that change, and a lot of big problems to solve: the transition to electric vehicles, the fact that cars are basically turning into rolling smartphones, how to make self-driving work safely, and more. And, of course, we always end up talking about Tesla — because how can you not?Links:Listen to the full interviews hereLuminar CEO Austin RussellFord CEO Jim FarleyArgo AI CEO Brian SaleskiPolestar CEO Thomas IngenlathWaymo CEO Tekedra MawakanaJeep CEO Christian MeunierSecretary of Transportation Pete ButtigiegVolkswagen CEO Herbert Diess Transcript of this episodeCredits:Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, and Jackie McDermott with and it was edited by Callie Wright.The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices