Austin Abigt, a philosopher and writer with the Renewal of Science movement, discusses the vital contrast between Newtonian and Goethian scientific traditions. He argues that the limitations of modern science stem from a purely quantitative approach, advocating for a holistic perspective that embraces the complexity of nature. The conversation touches on topics like Goethe's color theory, the historical interplay of science and art, and the tensions between modern mechanistic views and more intuitive understandings of the world, emphasizing the need for renewed scientific practices.