Goethian Science Reveals a Hidden World - Austin Abigt, Renewal of Science - DSPod #304

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Dec 7, 2024

Austin Abigt, a philosopher and writer with the Renewal of Science movement, discusses the vital contrast between Newtonian and Goethian scientific traditions. He argues that the limitations of modern science stem from a purely quantitative approach, advocating for a holistic perspective that embraces the complexity of nature. The conversation touches on topics like Goethe's color theory, the historical interplay of science and art, and the tensions between modern mechanistic views and more intuitive understandings of the world, emphasizing the need for renewed scientific practices.

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Alternative Scientific History

Modern science is often viewed as a cohesive trajectory from the Enlightenment.
However, an alternative tradition, running parallel to the Newtonian paradigm, offers a different perspective.

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Renaissance as the Seed of Modern Thought

The Renaissance, with figures like Da Vinci, represents a fusion of artistic, religious, and scientific impulses.
This era laid the groundwork for the scientific revolution by fostering precise, systematic engagement with the world.

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The School of Athens: A Synthesis of Thought

The School of Athens painting reflects the Renaissance integration of technical and spiritual thought.
This integration fueled the development of both artistic and scientific techniques.

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Austin Abigt is a philosopher, writer, and one of the key members of the of the Renewal of Science movement, which seeks to chart a path for scientific rebirth. In this conversation, Abigt explains how modern science is the product of two distinct philosophical lineages - one founded by Newton and Descartes, the other by Goethe. The Newtonian paradigm, roughly summarized by "shut up and calculate" has been invaluable for the development of the modern world, but Abigt argues that its ability to keep moving us forward to a deeper and deeper understanding of nature is inherently limited. To be able to make progress, we have to turn to the alternative scientific thread, the Goethian one, that advocates for a more holistic approach to nature. Rather than demanding a single story, Abigt argues that it's time to embrace the inherent complexity of nature. PATREON: get episodes early + join our weekly Patron Chat https://bit.ly/3lcAasB MERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci.myspreadshop.com/ AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98 SUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci References from Austin: Sheldon's Soul and Matter Essay: https://www.jstor.org/stable/2178912 (00:00) Go! (00:07:25) Alternative Scientific History (00:15:28) Evolution of Educational Traditions (00:27:03) Goethean Spectrum (00:39:20) Diverging Scientific Views (00:48:34) Mystical Elements in Science (00:58:07) Alternative Scientific Approaches (01:10:45) The Shift in Scientific Thinking (01:20:08) Social Engineering and Consciousness (01:27:50) Industrialization and Scientific Management (01:35:21) Anthroposophy and Cultural Integration (01:46:03) Idealism vs. Materialism (01:54:20) The Interplay of Perception, Reality, and Will (02:05:41) Morality of Science (02:16:12) Truth and Beauty is all there is? (02:25:28) Lunar Cycles and Plant Growth Studies (02:28:38) Bridging Spirituality and Science (02:37:02) Exploring Materialism and Mind (02:46:04) Unifying Science and Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience, #Anthroposophy, #HistoryOfIdeas, #ScienceHistory, #ScientificInquiry, #AlternativeScience, #RenaissanceScience, #GoetheanScience, , #ScientificParadigms, #ScienceAndSpirituality, #ScientificRevolution, #HolisticScience, #MysticalScience, #ScienceEducation, #ScientificIntegration, , #PhilosophicalDebates, #CulturalEvolution, #ScienceAndArt, #SpiritualKnowledge, #ModernScienceCritique#sciencepodcast, #longformpodcast Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671