Ariane Gerami, a researcher at the University of Bristol, explores how surfing can boost mental health, discussing the need for more evidence on surf therapy's effectiveness. Dr. Peter Olusoga, a psychologist at Sheffield Hallam University, dives into the declining need for uniqueness in a social media-driven world. Claudia Hammond also touches on the intense grief felt for deceased celebrities, revealing intriguing insights into parasocial relationships and modern mourning practices. The conversation balances personal reflections on surfing and celebrity influence on mental health.