In this conversation, Anthony James, host of the RegenNarration podcast, emphasizes the urgent need to harmonize human activities with ecological realities. He explores Indigenous wisdom in adapting to environmental changes, contrasting it with modern rigid approaches. Topics also include the integration of care into economic values, the influence of narratives on public perception, and how surfing can symbolize life’s transformative moments. Ultimately, he calls for a renewed commitment to collaboration and regeneration in the face of climate challenges.