Anthony Gregory, a historian of the American State and author of 'New Deal Law and Order', dives into the dramatic transformation of crime and governance in 1930s America. He discusses how the Great Depression shaped federal crime policies and the rise of figures like J. Edgar Hoover. The conversation touches on the dual approach of rehabilitation versus enforcement in Roosevelt's New Deal, the evolution of the FBI, and even the peculiar history of Coca-Cola's original cocaine content. It's a fascinating look at crime's role in modern political thought.