Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry's, is joined by Anson Ferex, former AB InBev executive and author. They dive into the backlash surrounding Disney's Snow White remake, critiquing casting choices and corporate activism. Cohen discusses the contradictions in social justice initiatives, while Ferex sheds light on the failures of corporate diversity efforts. They tackle the complexity of brands navigating political waters, questioning whether their activism is genuine or merely a marketing strategy. The conversation unveils the tension between ideals and financial motivations.