In this discussion, Andreas Malm, an influential author and professor at Lund University, challenges conventional climate activism. He argues that fossil fuels are a ticking time bomb and advocates for civil disobedience, including radical tactics like property damage. Malm critiques the ineffectiveness of climate conferences and highlights the empowerment of grassroots movements tackling fossil fuel projects. He emphasizes that new strategies are essential for addressing the climate crisis and questions the morality of labeling activist tactics as terrorism.

Andreas Malm, a human ecologist and author of works like Fossil Capital, joins Ash Sarkar to dissect the fraught politics surrounding climate change. They question the feasibility of technological solutions like BECCS and the proper limits for global warming. Malm critiques the delusions of green capitalism, arguing that it often prioritizes profit over genuine environmental efforts. The discussion also touches on the alarming risks linked to climate intervention technologies and the challenge of maintaining focus on climate amid global crises.

Wim Carton, an expert in climate politics, and Andreas Malm, a human ecology academic, delve into the urgent challenges posed by climate change. They critique the ineffective global response to rising temperatures and discuss the controversial 'overshoot' strategy. The duo calls for revolutionary changes to address fossil fuel reliance while examining the limitations of established climate policies. With a focus on the socio-political dynamics, they advocate for genuine action against fossil fuels to prevent catastrophic outcomes.

Kate Aronoff, Andreas Malm, and Sabrina Fernandes discuss the presence of corporations at COP26 and the importance of social movements. They explore the discrepancy between COP26 announcements and actual progress in negotiations. They highlight the collaboration of fossil fuel interests and white supremacy in Brazil under Bolsonaro's government. The speakers emphasize the role of direct action in addressing the climate crisis and the challenges of building a left eco-socialist movement. They also discuss targeting luxury emissions attributed to the rich and the importance of class consciousness.

Sean Illing talks with climate scholar Andreas Malm about his book How to Blow Up A Pipeline. They discuss the failure of decades of protests and appeals to curb the actions of the fossil fuel industry. And they explore why, despite dire evidence like the increasingly common scourge of wildfires and disastrous weather events, the climate change movement hasn't moved beyond peaceful protest — and why Malm argues the time for escalation is now.Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, VoxGuest: Andreas Malm, associate professor, Lund UniversityReferences:  How to Blow Up a Pipeline: Learning to Fight in a World on Fire by Andreas Malm (Verso; 2021) "Uganda, Tanzania, oil firms sign accords to build $3.5 billion pipeline" by Elias Biryabarema (Reuters; Apr. 11) "The Energy Future Needs Cleaner Batteries" by Drake Bennett (Bloomberg; Sept. 23) "Empirically grounded technology forecasts and the energy transition" by Rupert Way, Matthew Ives, Penny Mealy, and J. Doyne Farmer (INET Oxford Working Paper No. 2021-01; Sept. 14) "Fossilised Capital: Price and Profit in the Energy Transition" by Brett Christophers (New Political Economy; May 12) The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson (Hachette; 2020) "The Myth of Sisyphus" by Albert Camus (1942) Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app.Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcastsThis episode was made by:  Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices