Andrea Zalin, an expert on BDSM and legal issues, returns to explore the controversial use of the "bogus BDSM defense" in sexual violence cases. They discuss how some attempt to disguise abuse as consensual kink, raising questions about consent and legal implications. The conversation touches on the intersection of race and the biases that complicate jury decisions. Zaldin emphasizes the importance of discerning genuine kink from coercion, advocating for better legal frameworks to protect victims and ensure justice.