Amy Cooter, a researcher on domestic militias, Tess Owen, an investigative reporter on extremism, and Paul Rosenzweig, a cybersecurity lawyer, delve into President Trump’s pardons for January 6th insurrectionists. They discuss the alarming message these pardons send to violent militia groups like the Oath Keepers, the influence of social media on far-right extremism, and the potential legal ramifications of Trump's actions. Their insights illuminate the intersection of political violence, militia dynamics, and the risks posed by unchecked executive authority.

In this discussion, Dr. Amy Cooter, a leading expert on the U.S. militia movement, sheds light on the complex identities of militia members. She challenges prevalent myths, highlighting the varied beliefs among militias—from constitutionalists to conspiratorial factions. Amy also delves into the implications of political polarization and the impact of events like the Waco siege. By exploring the motivations behind militia involvement and the risks of accelerationism, she emphasizes the urgent need for nuanced understanding and proactive engagement with these groups.

According to MAGA rally goers, Donald Trump is in charge of the military. Jordan Klepper dives deeper into conspiracy theories surrounding the military with Paul Szoldra, the editor of The Ruck, a weekly newsletter focused on defense and national security. They discuss theories like Jade Helm, how service members react to conspiracy theories, and how high-ranking officials like General Michael Flynn abuse their credibility to spread them. They are joined by Dr. Amy Cooter of Middlebury College who breaks down her research on militia groups like the Oath Keepers, the overlap between members and veterans, and how militias approach “defending” their country.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.