The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast Episode 144, Steven Pinker x Richard Dawkins: Live in London (Part II - Audience Questions)
Jun 29, 2025
Join psychologist Steven Pinker, renowned for his insights on language and human nature, in a captivating discussion with biologist Richard Dawkins. They tackle the generational shifts in religious beliefs and the ethical implications of AI on society. Dive into the evolving standards of animal welfare and the intriguing future of synthetic meat. The duo engages in thought-provoking Q&A, contemplating AI consciousness and the potential impacts on human evolution. A lively exchange that brilliantly connects the past, present, and future of humanity!
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Religion's Dual Trends
- Religion is declining in some demographics but ultra-orthodox groups grow due to higher birth rates.
- This demonstrates that cultural persistence can depend on both generational replacement and fertility trends.
The Hard Problem of Consciousness
- Consciousness and subjective experience remain philosophically unresolved, complicating distinctions between human and AI.
- Ethical questions arise about AI experiences, but human consciousness is presumed due to shared biology.
Why Pain Feels Intense
- Pain's intensity has a Darwinian function: it is a powerful warning to protect life.
- However, the subjective quality of pain adds complexity beyond just being a biological signal.
