Tune into this raw conversation between Jarred Lopes of Dad Tired and Matt Schmitz (husband of Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz) as they offer real encouragement and hope for dads who want to find their identity in Jesus, be spiritual leaders in their homes, and walk in the freedom of the gospel. And for any men who long to live like this, but don’t (and for the women who love them), don’t miss the end of the episode where Jarred shares the miraculous story of how God rescued him out of the darkest time in his life and marriage, giving him hope and putting his feet on the right path.

This month’s memory verse: "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." — Matthew 6:21

Today's Dwell guest: Jerrad Lopes is a Christian author, speaker, and the founder of Dad Tired. As a father of four, he knows first-hand that living as a leader in your home is a weighty calling. He is passionate about equipping men and fostering community where, together, men can live out the gospel. He and his wife, Leila, live in South Carolina with their four children.

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Dads Who Dwell Differently // Jerrad Lopes and Matt Schmitz