

Dwell Differently
Natalie Abbott & Vera Schmitz
If you were our friend, and if we could look you in the eyes and see your struggles and know you fully, and if we could only give you ONE thing—we'd give you God’s Word. There is more power and love and truth in one verse than in a thousand other words. So, let us help you memorize God's words in a simple, easy way. We hope you'll love listening in while we chat about what our verse means, why it matters, and how it intersects with our daily lives. 
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Oct 29, 2025 • 37min
BONUS: The Unseen Realm of Angels // Melissa Spoelstra
 "The more we learn about angels, the more we learn about God, and the more we can root our faith in him."— Melissa SpoelstraToday's Episode: Today Natalie is chatting with Melissa Spoelstra about the unseen spiritual realm, specifically angels. They talk about our tendency to either underemphasize or overemphasize angels—pointing out that a good theology of angels comes from a healthy study of them. They discuss how our theology of angels helps us rightly understand the role of angels and our own place as fellow creatures, worshipers, and messengers of God in the world. This episode will not only grow your understanding of the spiritual realm but awaken your awe for our amazing God who created all things, including angels. This month's memory verse: "For we live by faith, not by sight." — 2 Corinthians 5:7Today's guest: Melissa Spoelstra is a women’s conference speaker, Bible teacher and author who is madly in love with Jesus. She is passionate about studying God’s Word and helping women of all ages to seek Christ and know Him more intimately through serious Bible study. Melissa has a degree in Bible theology, and she enjoys teaching God’s Word to diverse groups and churches across the nation. Melissa is the author of many Bible studies, including “Angels,” “The Gospel of John,” and “Isaiah.”Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership!Love this show? Support us by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Find out more about Melissa at MelissaSpoelstra.com. Check out her Angels Bible study. Get the ESV Prayer Journals for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Check out the Forever Welcomed bible study, by Oghosa Iyamu. Get your copy of Scarlet Hiltibidal's book, Hopeful-ish.Check out the Piper and Leaf Tea Advent Calendar. Use: DWELL10 to save 10%.Our Black Friday Sale starts November 3rd!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 

Oct 22, 2025 • 38min
Faith Made Real through Suffering // Christine Hoover
 "Suffering is where our faith is made real... And anything you see of enduring faith in me, that's God. That's his strength in my weakness."— Christine HooverToday's Episode: Listen in as Natalie talks with Bible teacher Christine Hoover about how God brought her through the most difficult year of her life. She shares how she learned to rely on God's strength in her weakness, to relinquish control, to accept the help and love of others, and to believe God through even the darkest times. More than that, she walk us through how she heard God's tender, faithful voice speaking to her in 2 Corinthians. You won't want to miss her amazing story!This month's memory verse: "For we live by faith, not by sight." — 2 Corinthians 5:7Today's guest: Christine Hoover is Bible teacher who serves as the Women’s Ministry Associate at The Austin Stone Community Church’s Northwest congregation in Austin, Texas. She has authored seven books, including Messy Beautiful Friendship and You Are Not Forgotten, as well as a Bible study of Matthew, Seek First the Kingdom. Her work has been featured on The Gospel Coalition and Christianity Today. Christine is married to Kyle, a pastor, and they have three sons. Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.Love this show? Support us by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Find out more about Christine at christinehoover.net or @christinehoover98.Get Christine's 2 Corinthians Bible study, More than Enough. Check out the Piper and Leaf Tea Advent Calendar. Use: DWELL10 to save 10%.Get the ESV Prayer Journals for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Check out the Forever Welcomed bible study, by Oghosa Iyamu. Get your copy of Scarlet Hiltibidal's book, Hopeful-ish.Check out our FALL SALE October 13 through the 23rd! Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 

Oct 15, 2025 • 24min
Believe God Is at Work // Natalie & Vera
 Join Natalie and Vera as they explore what it truly means to live by faith rather than sight. They emphasize believing in God’s unseen work and how it shapes daily choices. Practical habits like reading and memorizing Scripture are discussed as tools for overcoming anxiety and cultivating trust. The sisters highlight the importance of relying on the faith of others during tough times. Dive into Psalm 23 imagery to understand God's active pursuit and guidance, reminding listeners to anchor their lives in faith. 

Oct 8, 2025 • 36min
Precarious, Messy, Genuine Faith // Scarlet Hiltibidal
 "Our faith is not about how well we do our faith."— Scarlet HiltibidalToday's Episode: Join Natalie Abbott and Scarlet Hiltibidal as they discuss what it looks like to actually live by faith and instead of trusting in more tangible things. It's messy, and it often feels precarious, but it's so good. Scarlet talks about how she's seen God show up in the midst of cross-country moves and sad days and her mom's cancer diagnosis. She shares about the wonder of receiving instead of faking our faith or trying to earn God's favor. You won't want to miss this episode!This month's memory verse: "For we live by faith, not by sight." — 2 Corinthians 5:7Today's guest: Scarlet Hiltibidal is the author of “Afraid of All the Things,” “You’re the Worst Person in the World,” “He Numbered the Pores on My Face,” and the “Anxious and Ashamed” Bible studies. She writes regularly for ParentLife Magazine, HomeLife Magazine, and She Reads Truth. Scarlet enjoys speaking to women around the country about the freedom and rest available in Jesus. She loves hanging out with her husband and four kids, eating nachos by herself, writing for her friends, and studying stand-up comedy with a passion that should be reserved for more important pursuits. Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.Love this show? Support us by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Find out all things Scarlet at ScarletHiltibidal.com. Get your copy of Scarlet's book, Hopeful-ish.Get the ESV Prayer Journals for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Check out the Forever Welcomed bible study, by Oghosa Iyamu. Check out the book Scarlet recommended: A Long Obedience in the Same Direction, by Eugene Peterson.  Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 

Oct 1, 2025 • 25min
2 Corinthians 5:7 Deep Dive // Our Unseen Faith
 "Faith allows us to thrive despite life's hardships." — Natalie AbbottToday's episode: Join Natalie Abbott as she unpacks the powerful message of 2 Corinthians 5:7: "For we live by faith, not by sight." With thoughtful insight, she guides us verse by verse through the surrounding passage, highlighting how the Apostle Paul consistently contrasts the eternal promises of God with the fleeting realities of this world. Through her teaching, you’ll be encouraged to shift your focus from what is seen to what is unseen and to trust God in every trial, holding fast to the hope that one day, your faith will become sight.This month's memory verse: "For we live by faith, not by sight." — 2 Corinthians 5:7Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: Get your copy of Hopeful-ish, by Scarlet Hiltibidal.Get the ESV Prayer Journals for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Check out the Forever Welcomed bible study, by Oghosa Iyamu. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 

Sep 24, 2025 • 39min
Trusting God through Uncertainty // Raechel Myers, She Reads Truth
 "Can I say with as much confidence as I'd be able to say at the end of [my hardship], when I get to see the positive outcome...that 'in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who've been called according to his purpose. What man intends for evil, God intends for good. And so today, I will walk with him?'"— Raechel MyersToday's Episode: Join us as Raechel Myers (cofounder of She Reads Truth) walks us through the story of God and her own story—helping us consider how God is working all things for the good of his people. She shares biblical insights of how God is at work in the lives of his people. She also shares her own story of a time when God walked with her through a really tough year, and how he even worked good out of so much suffering and hardship. She encourages us that he is right there with us in the dark times, often encouraging us through other people. Tune in and be reminded of God's goodness to his people in every season. This month's memory verse: "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." —Romans 8:28Today's guest: Raechel Myers is always on the lookout for beauty, goodness, and truth in everyday life. From a puzzle at her kitchen table to the zucchini growing in her garden, Raechel finds reminders of the gospel everywhere. Founder of She Reads Truth, Raechel leads the community out of her deep love of God's Word and the firm conviction that all of Scripture is good news. Raechel lives in Nashville, Tennessee, with her husband and their two children.Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: Find out more about Raechel here. Check out She Reads Truth and get 20% off with the code: FORYOU20.Someone to Believe In: Embracing the Savior Who Stays the Same When Everything Else Changes, by Courtney Reissig Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith, by Blair LinneA Place for You: Reframing Christian Womanhood, by Kendra DahlThe Sing! Hymnal, from Keith and Kristyn Getty (get it for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus Account)Our best-selling Anxious No More Necklace is back in stock! Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 

Sep 17, 2025 • 25min
Every Terrible Thing, Undone // Natalie & Vera
 "Sometimes it's in the hardest, most terrible things that God brings out the most amazing redemptive stories."— Natalie AbbottToday's Episode: Join sisters and Dwell cofounders Vera and Natalie as they share how they've learned to trust God through difficult seasons. They reflect on times when they've seen God bring good out of even the worst parts of their lives. And even now, in the messy middle of their stories, when the path is totally unclear and the way is dark, they share how knowing God's good end brings them peace. Be encouraged and find comfort that God himself works to transform even our darkest seasons, if not right now, for all time.  This month's memory verse: "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." —Romans 8:28Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: The Freedom of Self-Forgetfulness, by Tim KellerA Place for You: Reframing Christian Womanhood, by Kendra DahlThe Sing! Hymnal, from Keith and Kristyn Getty (get it for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus Account)Someone to Believe In: Embracing the Savior Who Stays the Same When Everything Else Changes, by Courtney Reissig Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith, by Blair LinneSupport the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 

Sep 8, 2025 • 44min
Read the News through the Lens of Eternity // Nate Wells, The Pour Over
 "We want Christians to have a healthy relationship with the news... But most Christians don't—it makes them really angry or really sad or really anxious." — Nate WellsToday's Episode: All month long we're talking about God's good plan for his people for all time. And today, we're heading into the newsroom with The Pour Over's Nate Wells. He walks us through The Pour Over's process and passion for reporting the news in light of eternity. He shares how knowing the end of the story gives us hope and peace when the world feels like it's falling apart. Nate also shares two stories of finding hope when his own world turned upside down. Whether you're a news enthusiast or seeking peace in turbulent times, you won't want to miss this story.This month's memory verse: "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." —Romans 8:28Today's guest: Nate Wells is not one of the beloved witty writers at The Pour Over, he's just the business-y guy wrangling all the creatives. He made the typical career pivot from finance to a small (at the time) Christian newsletter. Now, The Pour Over serves over 1.5 million Christians in the US with politically-neutral, Christ-first news. He and his wife, Ari, have four kids.Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: Check out The Pour Over, for concise, unbiased news from a Christian perspective.A Place for You: Reframing Christian Womanhood, by Kendra DahlThe Sing! Hymnal, from Keith and Kristyn Getty (get it for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus Account)Someone to Believe In: Embracing the Savior Who Stays the Same When Everything Else Changes, by Courtney Reissig Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith, by Blair LinneSupport the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 

Sep 1, 2025 • 24min
Romans 8:28 Deep Dive // God Is at Work for Good
 "This isn't just a general statement about God working out good and redeeming all things (which he is doing)...Our verse is very specific. In your trials, in your hardship, in your pain, you can know that in all things—even those things—that God is working them for good because you love him and you've been called according to his purpose." — Natalie AbbottToday's episode: Natalie Abbott walks us through Romans 8:28 which says, "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." She takes us through the verse, phrase by phrase, helping us understand the full meaning of this beautiful promise for us, even in our suffering and pain. She roots her teaching in the surrounding context and the whole of Scripture, helping us see the full truth encapsulated in this summary statement of God's good plan for his people.This month's memory verse: "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." —Romans 8:28Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: Someone to Believe In: Embracing the Savior Who Stays the Same When Everything Else Changes, by Courtney Reissig Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith, by Blair LinneA Place for You: Reframing Christian Womanhood, by Kendra DahlThe Sing! Hymnal, from Keith and Kristyn Getty (get it for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus Account)Our best-selling Anxious No More Necklace is back in stock! Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 

Aug 27, 2025 • 34min
You Can (and Maybe Should) Slow Down // Tara Sun
 "We need a more sustainable way of living, right? This means that we can keep up with God, even when we're tempted to numb out and be overwhelmed by all the things in life." — Tara SunToday's Episode: Join Natalie Abbott and Tara Sun as they dive into the challenges of managing burnout and finding a sustainable way of living out our calling in Christ. They explore how to live out our faith authentically, even amidst life's chaos, and discuss practical steps to prioritize spiritual health. Tara shares her personal journey of overcoming overwhelm and the importance of intentionality in daily life. Tune in and be encouraged that you too can live a slowed-down, intentional, rich life. This month's memory verse: “And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.” — Colossians 3:17Today's guest: Tara Sun is the uplifting host of the popular women's podcast “Truth Talks with Tara” and the author of Surrender Your Story and Overbooked and Overwhelmed. She is a dynamic speaker and creative, using each of these platforms to equip women with the tools to know, love, and live God's Word in their daily lives. Tara's favorite titles are wife to her husband, Michael, and mom to their children. You'll find them living and serving the Lord in Oregon.Want to dive deeper into this month's verse? Join Natalie in the her monthly Bible Study.Support our show: It's really just as simple as leaving us a review!Links from today's show: Get to know Tara at TaraSunMinistries.com and @misstarasun.Check out this 4 step Bible study: The EASY Bible Study Method from Coffee and Bible Time.See the Bible as one big story with The One Story Bible, by Greg Gilbert (get it for 30% off!).Check out Dwell's BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR - 8/18-8/29.Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly. 


