Dwell Differently

Natalie Abbott & Vera Schmitz
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Nov 19, 2025 • 25min

Defiant Joy // Natalie & Vera

"These are the words that we need in our own despondency and our sadness and the hard reality of living in the world that we live in. We need a defiant, 'Yet I will rejoice in the Lord. I will be joyful in God my Savior.'"— Natalie AbbottToday's episode: Join Dwell Differently cofounders and sisters Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz as they talk about finding joy even in the toughest situations—in the Bible and in their own lives. They help us understand Habakkuk's struggle for defiant joy in spite of his fear and his complete lack. They also talk about the gritty daily reality of choosing joy every day—especially when life feels bleak. They are compassionate and compelling. It's a message you won't want to miss.This month's memory verse: "Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will be joyful in God my Savior." — Habakkuk 3:18Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership!Support our show: It's really just as simple as leaving us a review!Links from today's show: Get your copy of How to Remember, by Andrew Osenga.Check out Qava to help you study the Bible (use code DWELL50 for 50% off).Get The Biggest Story Holy Bible here for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.
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Nov 12, 2025 • 30min

Access Joy // Nicole Zasowski

"Joy is accessible to all of us now, if we've put our trust in Jesus. This is something we can access and practice."— Nicole ZasowskiToday's Episode: In this heartfelt episode, Nicole Zasowski sits down with Natalie Abbott to chat about the beautiful yet challenging journey of finding joy in the midst of life's trials. They discuss the biblical practice of speaking truth into circumstances as a means or rewiring our feelings and rooting our hope in Christ. Nicole shows how joy can be a choice we make, even when life feels tough. She opens up about her own experiences, sharing how practicing joy and wrestling with God can deepen our relationship with Him. The conversation is a warm reminder of the power of hope. Listeners are invited to embrace joy and trust in God's promises, no matter what life throws their way.This month's memory verse: "Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will be joyful in God my Savior." — Habakkuk 3:18Today's guest: Nicole Zasowski is a licensed marriage and family therapist, sought-after speaker, and author. She lives in Connecticut with her husband and three young children.Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership!Love this show? Support us by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Get your copy of How to Remember, by Andrew Osenga.Check out Qava to help you study the Bible (use code DWELL50 for 50% off).Get The Biggest Story Holy Bible here for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Celebrate with a Piper and Leaf Tea Advent Calendar (use code DWELL10 for 10% off.Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.
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Nov 3, 2025 • 26min

Habakkuk 3:18 Deep Dive // Tremble and Rejoice

"There are things going on that are difficult...and yet I will rejoice in the Lord."— Natalie AbbottToday's episode: Join host Natalie Abbott as she delves into the profound beauty of finding joy even in our struggles. In this episode, Natalie walks us through Habakkuk's journey from honest criticism of the injustices he sees to complete trust in the God who is just and who saves those who trust in him. You'll be encouraged to be honest and to trust in God through your own trials.  saying with Habakkuk, "Yet, I will rejoice in the LORD!"This month's memory verse: "Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will be joyful in God my Savior." — Habakkuk 3:18Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership!If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: Get your copy of How to Remember, by Andrew Osenga.Check out Qava to help you study the Bible (use code DWELL50 for 50% off).Get The Biggest Story Holy Bible here for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Celebrate with a Piper and Leaf Tea Advent Calendar (use code DWELL10 for 10% off)Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.
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Oct 29, 2025 • 37min

BONUS: The Unseen Realm of Angels // Melissa Spoelstra

"The more we learn about angels, the more we learn about God, and the more we can root our faith in him."— Melissa SpoelstraToday's Episode: Today Natalie is chatting with Melissa Spoelstra about the unseen spiritual realm, specifically angels. They talk about our tendency to either underemphasize or overemphasize angels—pointing out that a good theology of angels comes from a healthy study of them. They discuss how our theology of angels helps us rightly understand the role of angels and our own place as fellow creatures, worshipers, and messengers of God in the world. This episode will not only grow your understanding of the spiritual realm but awaken your awe for our amazing God who created all things, including angels. This month's memory verse: "For we live by faith, not by sight." — 2 Corinthians 5:7Today's guest: Melissa Spoelstra is a women’s conference speaker, Bible teacher and author who is madly in love with Jesus. She is passionate about studying God’s Word and helping women of all ages to seek Christ and know Him more intimately through serious Bible study. Melissa has a degree in Bible theology, and she enjoys teaching God’s Word to diverse groups and churches across the nation. Melissa is the author of many Bible studies, including “Angels,” “The Gospel of John,” and “Isaiah.”Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership!Love this show? Support us by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Find out more about Melissa at MelissaSpoelstra.com. Check out her Angels Bible study. Get the ESV Prayer Journals for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Check out the Forever Welcomed bible study, by Oghosa Iyamu. Get your copy of Scarlet Hiltibidal's book, Hopeful-ish.Check out the Piper and Leaf Tea Advent Calendar. Use: DWELL10 to save 10%.Our Black Friday Sale starts November 3rd!Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.
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Oct 22, 2025 • 38min

Faith Made Real through Suffering // Christine Hoover

"Suffering is where our faith is made real... And anything you see of enduring faith in me, that's God. That's his strength in my weakness."— Christine HooverToday's Episode: Listen in as Natalie talks with Bible teacher Christine Hoover about how God brought her through the most difficult year of her life. She shares how she learned to rely on God's strength in her weakness, to relinquish control, to accept the help and love of others, and to believe God through even the darkest times. More than that, she walk us through how she heard God's tender, faithful voice speaking to her in 2 Corinthians. You won't want to miss her amazing story!This month's memory verse: "For we live by faith, not by sight." — 2 Corinthians 5:7Today's guest: Christine Hoover is Bible teacher who serves as the Women’s Ministry Associate at The Austin Stone Community Church’s Northwest congregation in Austin, Texas. She has authored seven books, including Messy Beautiful Friendship and You Are Not Forgotten, as well as a Bible study of Matthew, Seek First the Kingdom. Her work has been featured on The Gospel Coalition and Christianity Today. Christine is married to Kyle, a pastor, and they have three sons. Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.Love this show? Support us by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Find out more about Christine at christinehoover.net or @christinehoover98.Get Christine's 2 Corinthians Bible study, More than Enough. Check out the Piper and Leaf Tea Advent Calendar. Use: DWELL10 to save 10%.Get the ESV Prayer Journals for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Check out the Forever Welcomed bible study, by Oghosa Iyamu. Get your copy of Scarlet Hiltibidal's book, Hopeful-ish.Check out our FALL SALE October 13 through the 23rd! Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.
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Oct 15, 2025 • 24min

Believe God Is at Work // Natalie & Vera

Join Natalie and Vera as they explore what it truly means to live by faith rather than sight. They emphasize believing in God’s unseen work and how it shapes daily choices. Practical habits like reading and memorizing Scripture are discussed as tools for overcoming anxiety and cultivating trust. The sisters highlight the importance of relying on the faith of others during tough times. Dive into Psalm 23 imagery to understand God's active pursuit and guidance, reminding listeners to anchor their lives in faith.
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Oct 8, 2025 • 36min

Precarious, Messy, Genuine Faith // Scarlet Hiltibidal

"Our faith is not about how well we do our faith."— Scarlet HiltibidalToday's Episode: Join Natalie Abbott and Scarlet Hiltibidal as they discuss what it looks like to actually live by faith and instead of trusting in more tangible things. It's messy, and it often feels precarious, but it's so good. Scarlet talks about how she's seen God show up in the midst of cross-country moves and sad days and her mom's cancer diagnosis. She shares about the wonder of receiving instead of faking our faith or trying to earn God's favor. You won't want to miss this episode!This month's memory verse: "For we live by faith, not by sight." — 2 Corinthians 5:7Today's guest: Scarlet Hiltibidal is the author of “Afraid of All the Things,” “You’re the Worst Person in the World,” “He Numbered the Pores on My Face,” and the “Anxious and Ashamed” Bible studies. She writes regularly for ParentLife Magazine, HomeLife Magazine, and She Reads Truth. Scarlet enjoys speaking to women around the country about the freedom and rest available in Jesus. She loves hanging out with her husband and four kids, eating nachos by herself, writing for her friends, and studying stand-up comedy with a passion that should be reserved for more important pursuits. Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.Love this show? Support us by leaving a review.Links from today's show: Find out all things Scarlet at ScarletHiltibidal.com. Get your copy of Scarlet's book, Hopeful-ish.Get the ESV Prayer Journals for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Check out the Forever Welcomed bible study, by Oghosa Iyamu. Check out the book Scarlet recommended: A Long Obedience in the Same Direction, by Eugene Peterson.  Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.
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Oct 1, 2025 • 25min

2 Corinthians 5:7 Deep Dive // Our Unseen Faith

"Faith allows us to thrive despite life's hardships." — Natalie AbbottToday's episode: Join Natalie Abbott as she unpacks the powerful message of 2 Corinthians 5:7: "For we live by faith, not by sight." With thoughtful insight, she guides us verse by verse through the surrounding passage, highlighting how the Apostle Paul consistently contrasts the eternal promises of God with the fleeting realities of this world. Through her teaching, you’ll be encouraged to shift your focus from what is seen to what is unseen and to trust God in every trial, holding fast to the hope that one day, your faith will become sight.This month's memory verse: "For we live by faith, not by sight." — 2 Corinthians 5:7Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: Get your copy of Hopeful-ish, by Scarlet Hiltibidal.Get the ESV Prayer Journals for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus account.Check out the Forever Welcomed bible study, by Oghosa Iyamu. Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.
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Sep 24, 2025 • 39min

Trusting God through Uncertainty // Raechel Myers, She Reads Truth

"Can I say with as much confidence as I'd be able to say at the end of [my hardship], when I get to see the positive outcome...that 'in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who've been called according to his purpose. What man intends for evil, God intends for good. And so today, I will walk with him?'"— Raechel MyersToday's Episode: Join us as Raechel Myers (cofounder of She Reads Truth) walks us through the story of God and her own story—helping us consider how God is working all things for the good of his people. She shares biblical insights of how God is at work in the lives of his people. She also shares her own story of a time when God walked with her through a really tough year, and how he even worked good out of so much suffering and hardship. She encourages us that he is right there with us in the dark times, often encouraging us through other people. Tune in and be reminded of God's goodness to his people in every season. This month's memory verse: "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." —Romans 8:28Today's guest: Raechel Myers is always on the lookout for beauty, goodness, and truth in everyday life. From a puzzle at her kitchen table to the zucchini growing in her garden, Raechel finds reminders of the gospel everywhere. Founder of She Reads Truth, Raechel leads the community out of her deep love of God's Word and the firm conviction that all of Scripture is good news. Raechel lives in Nashville, Tennessee, with her husband and their two children.Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: Find out more about Raechel here. Check out She Reads Truth and get 20% off with the code: FORYOU20.Someone to Believe In: Embracing the Savior Who Stays the Same When Everything Else Changes, by Courtney Reissig Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith, by Blair LinneA Place for You: Reframing Christian Womanhood, by Kendra DahlThe Sing! Hymnal, from Keith and Kristyn Getty (get it for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus Account)Our best-selling Anxious No More Necklace is back in stock! Support the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.
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Sep 17, 2025 • 25min

Every Terrible Thing, Undone // Natalie & Vera

"Sometimes it's in the hardest, most terrible things that God brings out the most amazing redemptive stories."— Natalie AbbottToday's Episode: Join sisters and Dwell cofounders Vera and Natalie as they share how they've learned to trust God through difficult seasons. They reflect on times when they've seen God bring good out of even the worst parts of their lives. And even now, in the messy middle of their stories, when the path is totally unclear and the way is dark, they share how knowing God's good end brings them peace. Be encouraged and find comfort that God himself works to transform even our darkest seasons, if not right now, for all time.  This month's memory verse: "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." —Romans 8:28Want to go even deeper in this month's verse? Study along with Natalie in the monthly Bible Study Membership. Get the first month FREE with the code: PODCAST.If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review.Links from today's show: The Freedom of Self-Forgetfulness, by Tim KellerA Place for You: Reframing Christian Womanhood, by Kendra DahlThe Sing! Hymnal, from Keith and Kristyn Getty (get it for 30% off with a free Crossway Plus Account)Someone to Believe In: Embracing the Savior Who Stays the Same When Everything Else Changes, by Courtney Reissig Made to Tremble: How Anxiety Became the Best Thing That Ever Happened to My Faith, by Blair LinneSupport the showFollow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

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