Coffee House Shots: How the Whips' office really works

Simon Hart, former Welsh Secretary and Chief Whip of the Conservative Party, shares insights from his new book, 'Ungovernable: The Political Diaries of a Chief Whip.' He discusses the complexities of political loyalty and the challenges faced during his tenure, especially his tough resignation under Boris Johnson. Hart reflects on the Rwanda vote as a highlight, likening the whips' office to an HR department, and critiques the party's overly optimistic outlook ahead of the 2024 elections. His humor and serious reflections offer a unique glimpse into the inner workings of politics.