The Rest Is Politics

81. Ex-New Zealand PM Helen Clark on monarchy, extreme poverty, and Jacinda Ardern

Dec 2, 2022
Former New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark brings a wealth of experience to the table, discussing critical topics like the rise of populism and its impact on democracy. She shares insights on global poverty, emphasizing the urgent need for sustainable investments and critiques the UK’s aid cuts. Clark reflects on the cultural significance of arts in governance and contrasts political turbulence in the UK with New Zealand's approach. Their conversation also humorously touches on the world of football, illustrating the sport's surprising global charms.
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ANECDOTE

Parliamentary Atmospheres

  • New Zealand's parliament is less boisterous than the UK's, where members are 'a fist punch away'.
  • The intimate chamber intensifies the atmosphere during Prime Minister's Questions.
ADVICE

The Reality of Politics

  • Politics often exaggerates party differences.
  • Much policy remains consistent across governments, and there's collegial work behind the scenes.
ANECDOTE

Mixed-Member Proportional Representation in New Zealand

  • Helen Clark initially opposed MMP but found the transition positive, allowing parties to become more cohesive.
  • Major parties in New Zealand adapted and retained significant shares under MMP.
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