Joining me today is Amanda Held Opelt, sister of Rachel Held Evans, to talk about her book "A Hole in the World: Finding Hope in Rituals and Grief of Healing." After a season of multiple losses, Amanda found herself studying grief rituals. We talk about what she learned and consequently wrote about. We also cover her experience with international aid work, making meaning out of suffering, resilience in the context of high trauma, and more.

Amanda’s Website: http://amandaheldopelt.com/

Amanda's episode on The Bible for Normal People: ://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bible-for-normal-people/id1215420422?i=1000574596668

Amanda's Instagram and Twitter: @AmandaHeldOpelt

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