Ungovernable Misfits The Ebb & Flow | The Confab 05: Max Tannahill
Jul 31, 2024
01:27:50
Welcome to the The Confab, the term derives from "confidential talk", which was commonly used in the Prohibition Era for meetings and conversations that took place in the smoky, rule-breaking speakeasies of that time.
The informal, privacy focused and clandestine nature of Ungovernable Misfits lends itself to these discussions. So, grab a seat and a stiff drink from the concealed bar, listen and revel in the conversation.
On this episode, Max Tannahill drops-in to speak with Max
Show Discussion
I. Looking Back
Reflections on how the Bitcoin space has changed over the past few years - Max notes that while some aspects have become more centralized, there are also interesting experiments happening on-chain that diverge from the common narratives.
II. What the Chain Explains
Concerns about censorship and the precedent set by the Ordinals situation - Both express frustration with the purity testing and ideological rigidity around how Bitcoin "should" be used.
III. Privacy Post-Whirlpool
Strategies for privacy and spending Bitcoin - They discuss the pros and cons of using tools like Lightning, Monero swaps, and gift cards/vouchers to maintain privacy and flexibility.
IV. Compliance Conundrums
Observations on the regulatory landscape and potential challenges around taxation and KYC requirements - They both anticipate increasing pressure from governments to monitor and tax Bitcoin holdings.
V. Tether Works
Exploration of alternative payment methods like using Tether as a bridge between fiat and crypto - Max shares how this can provide pragmatic solutions in certain use cases.
VI. Head Up
Reflections on the overall state of the Bitcoin ecosystem and the need to remain adaptable as the landscape evolves.
The conversation covered a wide range of nuanced topics related to the practical realities of using Bitcoin in the current environment. The main themes were navigating privacy, censorship resistance, and regulatory pressures.
IMPORTANT LINKS
SHOW SPONSORS
FOUNDATION (https://foundationdevices.com/ungovernable)
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil,”
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show.
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.
You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.
TIME:
- create fountain clips for the show
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TALENT:
- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music
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- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!
TREASURE:
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The informal, privacy focused and clandestine nature of Ungovernable Misfits lends itself to these discussions. So, grab a seat and a stiff drink from the concealed bar, listen and revel in the conversation.
On this episode, Max Tannahill drops-in to speak with Max
Show Discussion
I. Looking Back
Reflections on how the Bitcoin space has changed over the past few years - Max notes that while some aspects have become more centralized, there are also interesting experiments happening on-chain that diverge from the common narratives.
II. What the Chain Explains
Concerns about censorship and the precedent set by the Ordinals situation - Both express frustration with the purity testing and ideological rigidity around how Bitcoin "should" be used.
III. Privacy Post-Whirlpool
Strategies for privacy and spending Bitcoin - They discuss the pros and cons of using tools like Lightning, Monero swaps, and gift cards/vouchers to maintain privacy and flexibility.
IV. Compliance Conundrums
Observations on the regulatory landscape and potential challenges around taxation and KYC requirements - They both anticipate increasing pressure from governments to monitor and tax Bitcoin holdings.
V. Tether Works
Exploration of alternative payment methods like using Tether as a bridge between fiat and crypto - Max shares how this can provide pragmatic solutions in certain use cases.
VI. Head Up
Reflections on the overall state of the Bitcoin ecosystem and the need to remain adaptable as the landscape evolves.
The conversation covered a wide range of nuanced topics related to the practical realities of using Bitcoin in the current environment. The main themes were navigating privacy, censorship resistance, and regulatory pressures.
IMPORTANT LINKS
SHOW SPONSORS
FOUNDATION (https://foundationdevices.com/ungovernable)
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil,”
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show.
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.
You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.
TIME:
- create fountain clips for the show
- create a meetup
- help boost the signal on social media
TALENT:
- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music
- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better
- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!
TREASURE:
- BOOST IT on the Podcasting 2.0 apps (https://podcastapps.com)
- STREAM SATS
- DONATE via Paynym @ https://paynym.is/+maxbuybit
- DONATE via Monero
83H2AcSXfJv69K7SqPkBAcTVsEXXB84ppXviMmhHydyoXJxEyfavH3qRg3X6GufTRfYW4LF233w8bPbbDfqYeJdLC8vBv1D
- BUY SOME CLOTHING @ https://ungovernablemisfits.com/store/
(00:00:04) INTRO
(00:02:17) BOOSTS
(00:04:55) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(00:06:19) Time Flies Tannahill
(00:09:16) Looking for Imagination
(00:14:01) The Chain Tells a Different Story
(00:21:55) Bad for Privacy, Bad for Compliance
(00:32:25) It May Seem Bleak, But Things Will Improve
(00:36:53) Enjoy the Speculation
(00:46:58) Embrace Proven Solutions
(00:55:27) Lightning, Monero & Nappies
(01:09:43) Some Tether in the Toolbox?
(01:17:49) Overcoming Merchant Adoption Challenges