Ungovernable Misfits

In this Confab, Max sits down with Marks from Maple AI for a candid dive into privacy-first AI and how it intersects with the Bitcoin and Monero worlds many of us live in. They explore his journey from Apple’s AI/ML and product-launch trenches to Mutiny Wallet and now Maple, a secure, confidential-computing alternative to mainstream AI assistants. Marks shares how lawyers, accountants, therapists, and privacy-conscious users are adopting Maple to protect client data while still getting powerful AI assistance, and we unpack why closed AIs can shape narratives through hidden prompts, profiling, and subtle persuasion—especially in future crisis scenarios.Max and Marks also look ahead: open-source and local AI, encrypted enclaves, and the path to personal “Jarvis” agents with strong memory and on-device sovereignty. From live translation and wearables to body-language detection, they consider the benefits and risks—and how cryptographic identity, consent-based data sharing, and verifiable systems could keep humans in control. Marks points listeners to his essay “The Free Thought Manifesto” at https://aiwithconfidence.org for a deeper read on censorship risks and the importance of verifiable AI. Try Maple: trymaple.aiHELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/VALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/FOUNDATIONhttps://foundation.xyz/ungovernableFoundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchaseCAKE WALLEThttps://cakewallet.comCake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.Features:- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.Monero Users:- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.Bitcoin Users:- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!MYNYMBOXhttps://mynymbox.ioYour go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.(00:00:00) INTRO(00:01:23) BOOSTS(00:03:30) THANK YOU CAKE WALLET(00:04:17) THANK YOU FOUNDATION(00:05:04) THANK YOU MYNYMBOX(00:06:01) Welcome Back Marks(00:10:25) Bitcoin Meetups and Legal Risk(00:15:25) Life at Apple(00:23:38) Mutiny Plants the Maple Seed(00:27:30) Who's The User?(00:33:17) Closed AI is the New Censorship(00:40:52) Jarvis Dreams(00:46:17) NIMBY AI(00:52:48) What About My Wearables?(00:55:10) Verifiable Systems(01:00:26) The Free Thought Manifesto

A weekly live show covering all things Freedom Tech with Max, Q and Seth.HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/TO DONATE TO ROMAN'S DEFENSE FUND: https://freeromanstorm.com/donateVALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/FOUNDATIONhttps://foundation.xyz/ungovernableFoundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchaseCAKE WALLEThttps://cakewallet.comCake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.Features:- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.Monero Users:- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.Bitcoin Users:- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!MYNYMBOXhttps://mynymbox.ioYour go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.

In our first live Monero Monthly, Max and Seth are joined by Riccardo “fluffypony” Spagni for a candid tour through Monero’s origin story and culture. Riccardo dives into the chaotic Bytecoin days, how a secret fork birthed Monero after a contentious merge-mining push, and why missing comments, odd code obfuscations, and a deliberately crippled miner set off everyone’s spidey senses.Riccardo shares the serendipitous formation of the Monero Research Lab—hiring Sarang and Surae via a Reddit post—and a hilarious Utah road-trip mishap that bonded early contributors. They also explore how Monero’s antifragile culture emerged from a strict no-price-talk ethos, pseudonymous contribution, and a relentless focus on usable privacy that’s helped real people in difficult situations.They close with reflections on delistings, decentralised access, level-headed responses to network “attacks,” and how Tari aims to provide privacy-first smart contracts without compromising Monero’s design. Listener Q&A covers delistings pushing P2P adoption, cultural decisions that made Monero durable, handling selfish-mining FUD, practical privacy in tightening EU regs, and what Tari brings to the table. Context postshttps://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3f2fpd/the_strange_birth_history_of_monero_part_i_wtf_is/https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5h15rh/the_strange_birth_history_of_monero_part_ii/https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5hhpzq/the_strange_birth_history_of_monero_part_iii/https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5hvwu8/the_strange_birth_history_of_monero_part_iv/HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/VALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/CAKE WALLEThttps://cakewallet.comCake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.Features:- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.Monero Users:- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.Bitcoin Users:- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!FOUNDATIONhttps://foundation.xyz/ungovernableFoundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase(00:00:01) INTRO(00:04:35) First Impressions of Bytecoin(00:08:49) The Birth of Monero Research Lab(00:12:54) The Trip to Utah(00:18:21) Forking BitMonero (00:24:18) Mining in the Early Days(00:32:07) State of the Project(00:39:44) Are Delistings a Net Positive?(00:43:30) Design Decisions and Cultural Norms(00:49:08) WIll You Contribute as a Dev in the Future?(00:49:39) Handling Network Attacks(00:53:14) EU Dystopia Arbitrage(00:58:15) Why the Monero Pump?(01:01:06) The Goals of Tari(01:04:08) FreeSamourai Cap Winner(01:04:53) OUTRO

A weekly live show covering all things Freedom Tech with Max, Q and Seth.HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/TO DONATE TO ROMAN'S DEFENSE FUND: https://freeromanstorm.com/donateVALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/FOUNDATIONhttps://foundation.xyz/ungovernableFoundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchaseCAKE WALLEThttps://cakewallet.comCake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.Features:- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.Monero Users:- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.Bitcoin Users:- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!MYNYMBOXhttps://mynymbox.ioYour go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.

Max and Q cover the latest happenings in the world of Bitcoin, privacy and much more. AOBFTF with Guy SwannSamourai reminder - Over 14.4k sigs nowBitcoin/Crypto donations now availableSamourai/Prime competition update (NostrGang was the winner)Lauren interview with Jesse TevelowTwo letters from Keonne now available via The RageNEWSDOJ sold Samourai Bitcoin?Another ledger leakWoS winding down custodial service in EUCalifornia state to begin stealing BitcoinFrench government officials selling taxpayers info to gang membersUPDATES/RELEASESPhoenixd DashboardRumble wallet public releaseBTCPay v2.3.2Zeus v0.12.2-alpha1Joinmarket NG 0.9Primal 2.6HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/VALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/FOUNDATIONhttps://foundation.xyz/ungovernableFoundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchaseCAKE WALLEThttps://cakewallet.comCake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.Features:- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.Monero Users:- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.Bitcoin Users:- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!MYNYMBOXhttps://mynymbox.ioYour go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.(00:00:00) INTRO(00:00:57) THANK YOU FOUNDATION (00:01:38) THANK YOU CAKE WALLET(00:02:43) Check Out Talking Pears on FTF(00:05:57) Samourai Situation Update(00:11:35) Two Double Espressos? Decaf... Right?(00:16:31) DOJ Supposedly Sells Samourai Bitcoin(00:20:20) Another Ledger Leak(00:25:33) Wallet of Satoshi EU Exit(00:27:54) Cali’s Unclaimed Crypto Law(00:29:12) French Tax Agent Scandal(00:36:53) BOOSTS(00:49:54) Phoenixd Dashboard Brings a Polished UI(00:53:52) Rumble Wallet(00:55:42) BTCPay Server 2.3.2(00:56:02) Zeus Adds Money Badger QR Support(00:56:58) JoinMarketNG 0.9(00:59:06) Primal Remote Signer(01:00:19) THANK YOU MYNYMBOX!

HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/In this special series, Max shares why we’re hosting and preserving the Unbounded archive at Ungovernable Misfits, and kick off a re-release series with Q (BTC QnA) — a renowned educator at the forefront of no-KYC Bitcoin, self-custody, and radical privacy. TBD and Q dig into the real stakes of “being your own bank”: practical, failure-resistant self-custody; why panic is the enemy; and how to build muscle memory through small, repeatable drills. Q lays out a sober threat model, arguing the biggest risk is often the user, not the thief and stresses keeping setups simple until your skills grow. They also unpack the Samourai/Whirlpool fallout, the cultural slide from sovereignty to speculation, and why node ownership, recovery competence, and careful passphrase handling matter more than ever.TBD and Q explore financial sovereignty as resilient wealth storage, borderless portability, and the freedom to transact — benefits unlocked only through true self-custody. Q shares red lines around KYC and custodial products, assesses today’s privacy toolkit (JoinMarket, self-custodial Lightning, Ashigaru), and outlines a pragmatic stack for intermediate users, including running your own node and choosing tools that match your abilities. They close with what’s coming from Foundation — the open-source Passport Prime designed to secure your entire digital life — and where to follow Q’s work and education. Stay resilient, and enjoy the series as we continue with Diverter, Seth, Pavel, and Colonial in the weeks ahead.TWITTER: https://x.com/TheUNBOUNDEDPodYOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@TheUnboundedPodcast(00:00) Thank You TBD(01:55) INTRO(03:33) Radical Responsibility(08:51) Going Mainstream(12:59) Red Lines(15:25) Is Bitcoin Privacy Dead?(17:48) Lessons from the Samourai Arrests(25:57) What's Your Mental Framework?(30:48) The Non-Negotiables of Self Custody(33:16) Practical Stacks(36:32) Skill Dictates Tool Selection(38:50) Simplify and Streamline

A weekly live show covering all things Freedom Tech with Max, Q and Seth.HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/TO DONATE TO ROMAN'S DEFENSE FUND: https://freeromanstorm.com/donateVALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/FOUNDATIONhttps://foundation.xyz/ungovernableFoundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchaseCAKE WALLEThttps://cakewallet.comCake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.Features:- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.Monero Users:- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.Bitcoin Users:- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!MYNYMBOXhttps://mynymbox.ioYour go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.

Max and Q cover the latest happenings in the world of Bitcoin, privacy and much more. AOBFTF datesSamourai reminder - Over 11k sigs nowSamourai/Prime competitionWoB panel video releasedDecaf diariesNEWSBlockstream Jade vulnerabilityBitcoin Keeper changes modelMetamask launches Bitcoin support using BDKUPDATES/RELEASESFountain v1.4.0Robosats v0.8.3-alphaNew Dojo OSP websitePassport Core v2.3.11Igloo webBTCPay v2.3.0Cake Wallet v5.6.5Zeus v0.12.0EducationBull Wallet Passport tutorialCool AI promo vidNunchuk 'Definitive guide to Bitcoin Inheritance'BM post by Zack Shaprio about Samourai pardonHELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/VALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/FOUNDATIONhttps://foundation.xyz/ungovernableFoundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchaseCAKE WALLEThttps://cakewallet.comCake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.Features:- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.Monero Users:- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.Bitcoin Users:- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!MYNYMBOXhttps://mynymbox.ioYour go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.(00:00) INTRO(00:41) THANK YOU FOUNDATION(01:38) THANK YOU CAKE WALLET(02:44) Christmastime(05:35) Decaf Diaries(07:54) Waiting on FTF(09:09) Pardon Samourai(10:24) Donate to PardonSamourai, Win A Passport Prime(11:55) Q @ Watch Out Bitcoin(13:20) Jade Security Disclosure(16:48) Keeper Changes Models(20:57) Metamask Adds Bitcoin Support(23:52) BOOSTS(26:36) Q's Mince Pies(29:35) Fountain 1.40(30:42) Robosats 8.3-Alpha(31:04) New Dojo OSP Website(31:44) Passport Core Firmware 2.3.11(32:10) Igloo Web (32:59) BTC Payserver 2.3(33:44) Cake Wallet 5.6.5(38:10) ZEUS 0.12.0(41:57) Bull Wallet & Passport Tutorial(42:42) Nunchuk Inheritance Guide(43:43) Zack Shapiro on a Samourai Pardon(44:09) QUESTIONS!(55:25) THANK YOU MYNYMBOX

In this episode of PMM, Jon & Max reflect on what the show has been, what it is, and where they want to take it next. They talk candidly about ditching rigid prep and Bitcoin-only rails to embrace broader, real‑world building: skills, tools, community, and practical sovereignty. From Jon's first local educational event with Fundamentals and Shadrach, to celebrating the high‑functioning doers in the Meshtadel, the focus is shifting toward action over theory—featuring people who actually build things, run businesses, and strengthen local resilience. BUY FUNDAMENTALS BOOK: https://zeuspay.com/btc-for-institutionsIf you’re building in the physical world—carpentry, fabrication, energy, agriculture, logistics—we want to hear from you.Jon & Max outline plans to spotlight community makers via the Meshconomy boxes and profile series, and bring in experts who’ve scaled from tinkering to serious enterprise. Expect more voices, more practical guidance, and more bridge‑building between our digital chats and tangible outcomes. The invitation is open: if you’re doing the work, come on and tell us what you’ve built and what others can learn from it.Stay Ungovernable.HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/VALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Paynym to JON @ https://paynym.rs/+idealpresident82- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/ALTAIR TECHNOLOGIESAltair Tech is your one-stop shop for pleb mining supplies. They carry Bitaxes, Urlacher Conversion Kits, Bitmain Antminers, Shrouds, etc. Anything you can think of when it comes to Bitcoin Mining :).Use the affiliate link above and don't forget to use code UNGOVERNABLE at checkout. LAKE SATOSHILake Satoshi is a private lake located on 130 acres of land in Mid-Michigan. Originally a gravel pit, Lake Satoshi has since evolved into a tranquil oasis for those who love the great outdoors and Bitcoin culture.With the growing popularity of Bitcoin, Lake Satoshi has become a hub for like-minded individuals to network, camp, collaborate, and enjoy all that the property has to offer.The Annual Lake Satoshi Retreat is a unique weekend-long event in August (8/02). Tickets are available and can be paid with bitcoin. YOU MAY ALSO PAY IN CASH UPON ARRIVAL. Camping all weekend, BBQ + BTC speaker panels Saturday, and breakfast Sunday all included.(00:00) Moving, Not Moving On(04:28) Digital to the Physical(12:22) Don't Go Building Bunkers(16:08) Broadening the Tent(22:28) A-A-Ron(29:03) "Be Like Water. Don't Be Like Sandcastle." - Jon Lee(32:24) What Will Stay The Same(34:29) Don't Be The Cunt Chasing Butterflies(39:28) ALTAIR(41:54) LAKE SATOSHI(43:16) The Meshconomy(48:06) Alright Buddy. Good Year.

In this episode of The Confab,  Max sits down with Barry (Podhome) and ChadF to chart where independent podcasting is headed and why Podcasting 2.0 still matters. They dig into keeping speech free via open RSS, the practical trade-offs of centralized platforms, and how value-for-value actually works in the wild—from Lightning boosts to Monero tips, funding tags and fiat donation pages. Barry shares Podhome’s ethos (don’t deplatform lawful speech), its all‑in features for creators, and what’s next on the product roadmap. ChadF traces the lineage from No Agenda to today’s Podcast Index, explains the messy reality of wallets, Keysend vs LNURL, and why onboarding listeners is the real nut to crack. Max, Barry and ChadF also cover chapters and artwork as creative glue, treating your show like a business without expecting it to pay the bills, and why word‑of‑mouth still grows the best shows. If you were ever wanting to start a podcast, then there's some really good advice to get going.ChadF closes with his recent “vibe coding” builds, including a self‑hosted music player for The Doerfels and his StableKraft app that curates value‑for‑value music into a proper listening experience—all pushing the open, independent future we want to see.HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDONSIGN THE PETITION ----> https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----> https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonneSUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---> https://billandkeonne.org/VALUE FOR VALUEThanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.TIME:- create fountain clips for the show- create a meetup- help boost the signal on social mediaTALENT:- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!TREASURE:- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/FOUNDATIONhttps://foundation.xyz/ungovernableFoundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchaseCAKE WALLEThttps://cakewallet.comCake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.Features:- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.Monero Users:- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.Bitcoin Users:- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!MYNYMBOXhttps://mynymbox.ioYour go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.(00:00:00) INTRO(00:00:42) BOOSTS(00:06:24) Podcasting Royalty Joins the Show(00:08:26) The Origins of Podhome(00:10:48) The Podcast Whisperer(00:15:06) State of the Ecosystem(00:28:36) V4V Pain(00:32:37) Banks & Boosts(00:36:35) The FUNDING Tag(00:39:35) Boost Culture(00:45:55) Starting a Podcasting 2.0 Podcast(00:58:24) Value Comes in Many Forms (H/T Silas)(01:02:53) Why Podhome?(01:05:55) Chad Builds DeMu Players(01:09:26) Chad Crafts StableKraft(01:11:33) Let's Pull The Plug