Behind the Bastards

Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

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Mar 13, 2025
David Gborie joins to explore the captivating rise of Ziz LaSota, a bright young girl from Alaska who becomes a controversial figure in the rationalist movement. They discuss her obsession with philosophy and ethics, especially regarding sentience and artificial intelligence. The conversation dives into how cult leaders can emerge from charismatic individuals like Ziz and the psychological influences that lead followers to embrace radical beliefs. Gborie also highlights the absurdities of tech culture and the moral dilemmas faced in the gig economy.
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INSIGHT

Ziz's Origins and Aspirations

  • Ziz LaSota, born in Alaska, was a bright, tech-savvy, and unapologetically weird child.
  • She was drawn to the Bay Area by Rationalist blogs, fanfic, and dreams of cosmic significance.
ANECDOTE

Payroll Hack

  • In middle school, Ziz and other students hacked the school district's payroll system.
  • They gave raises to favored teachers and cut the salaries of disliked ones, showcasing Ziz's tech skills and emotional volatility.
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Veganism and Rationalism

  • Ziz's interest in veganism and animal sentience connected her to the Rationalist community.
  • She was particularly drawn to Brian Tomasik's long-termist views and focus on reducing suffering.
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