The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Why Jackie Hill Perry Walked Away from Music—And Why She Came Back

Jan 30, 2025
Jackie Hill Perry, a talented Christian artist, poet, and Bible teacher, reflects on her unique creative journey in music and poetry. She candidly discusses her decision to step away from music at its peak and the compelling reasons for her return. The conversation covers the tension between influence and integrity, the transformative power of hip-hop in discipleship, and her childhood memories within the Black church. Jackie also shares insights on navigating faith and creativity, including how she balances theological depth with artistic expression.
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ANECDOTE

The Solution's Inspiration

  • Jackie was inspired to write "The Solution" after a young man was murdered for playing his music too loud.
  • The song reflects her grief, lament, and call for repentance and finding joy in God.
ANECDOTE

No Way's Tired

  • Esau reads a line from Jackie's song, and she struggles to recognize it initially.
  • She reveals she rarely performed her music and hasn't in eight years.
INSIGHT

No Way's Tired and Lament

  • Jackie connects "No Way's Tired" to the Black Lives Matter movement and Mike Brown's death.
  • She blends Christian hip-hop with the tradition of lament in Black spirituals.
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