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Jan 10, 2025
Mikey Shulman, Co-founder and CEO of Suno, a pioneering music AI company, discusses the future of AI consumer applications and music's evolution. He critiques OpenAI's influence on the industry and emphasizes the importance of good taste in music creation. Shulman also shares insights on emerging music discovery platforms and the ongoing legal battles with major labels. He explores the competition between Spotify, YouTube, and TikTok, envisioning a more inclusive music landscape driven by innovation and collaboration.
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Scaling Laws in Music

  • Scaling laws are not as effective in music as in text because music is subjective.
  • Models for music will remain smaller, focusing on taste rather than scale.
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Music as a Video Game

  • Music should be interactive and engaging like video games.
  • This interactivity would increase music's value and monetization potential.
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Model vs. Product

  • Paying for better models is a temporary phase in AI development.
  • Eventually, users will value product experience over underlying model specifics.
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