In this episode, Pip and Jack discuss their experiences in the emergency services field, particularly in lifeguarding and firefighting. They touch on the importance of passion and immersion in the field, as well as the unique challenges and responsibilities that come with being a emergency responder. They discuss the generational differences in the emergency services field and the benefits that the younger generation brings, such as their access to information and their passion for the job. They also highlight the importance of teaching the younger generation how to process and analyze the information they consume. Finally, they compare the ocean environment to firefighting, emphasizing the need for respect and understanding of the unpredictable nature of both. The conversation covers various topics related to water safety, fitness, and finding the right exercise routine. The hosts discuss the dangers of swimming in certain beach areas, the importance of lifeguards, and the different hazards present in different beaches. They also touch on the importance of physical fitness in emergency services and finding a workout routine that works for each individual. The conversation emphasizes the need for individuals in emergency services to train like professional athletes and be physically fit to perform their jobs effectively. In this final part of the conversation, Jack and Pip discuss the importance of maintaining a healthy lifestyle, including exercise and balanced meals. They also talk about the benefits of attending conferences and networking with like-minded individuals. Because, what you do off the job, MATTERS!!!