Ever walked past a spray-painted wall and thought, "That's actually really cool and beautiful!" But is it art or just stylish vandalism? Molly and Carl grab some spray cans and dive into the messy, colourful world of graffiti to ask: when does a rebellious scribble become art, and who gets to decide?

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Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art.

Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds.

Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy
Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions
Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content

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Graffiti or Gallery? When does graffiti become street art?