How should I be positioned? with Matt McLennan (First Eagle) and Jason Draho (UBS CIO)
Apr 24, 2024
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Matt McLennan and Jason Draho discuss the US macroeconomic environment, growth outlook, inflation, and Fed rate cuts. They also share insights on portfolio positioning preferences in a changing rate environment. Topics include nominal activities impact, bond yields analysis, current economic indicators comparison, and investment positioning in a geopolitically bifurcated world.
Higher interest rates can contribute to budget deficits and monetary creation, impacting nominal growth.
Real assets like staples may provide resilience amid changing monetary dynamics, potentially sustaining value in uncertain markets.
Deep dives
Impact of Recent Market Behavior on Macroeconomic Outlook
Recent weeks have seen the market behave more rationally, with an easing of financial conditions driving an uptick in inflation prints and retail sales. However, the Fed faces challenges with interest rates above wage growth, potentially leading to a slowdown in nominal growth. The easing financial conditions have fueled an exuberance that may now be receding, with signs of slowing nominal growth in luxury goods sales and trucking activities.
Complexity of Assessing Monetary Policy
There is an imperfect understanding of monetary policy's impact on the economy, with interest rate trends often defying predictions. Higher interest rates can add to budget deficits and monetary creation, influencing the economy's nominal growth. The current dynamics suggest a gradual shift towards a higher cost of capital and nominal drift, influenced significantly by fiscal factors.
Equities Market and Potential Monetary Disorder
There is a potential for equities to face derating risk in a scenario of higher rates of nominal drift akin to the 1970s. Real assets like staples may offer resilience in uncertain market conditions, with companies that reflect real assets potentially sustaining value amidst changing monetary dynamics. The market pricing of equities suggests a shift towards recognising them as real assets that can withstand changing economic trends.
Opportunities in International Equities and Market Arbitrage
International equities are offering higher earnings yields compared to the US market, leading to a potential shift in investment focus. Differing pricing of risks between markets like China and the US present arbitrage opportunities, with risk premiums varying significantly. Companies in regions like Japan and sectors like energy could benefit from geopolitical risk premiums and shifting global dynamics.
Matt rejoins Jason in the studio for a discussion around the US macroeconomic environment, including an outlook for growth, inflation and Fed rate cuts. We also spend time outlining portfolio positioning preferences. Featured is Matt McLennan, Co-Head of the Global Value Team, First Eagle Investment Management, and Jason Draho, Head of Asset Allocation Americas, UBS Chief Investment Office. Host: Daniel Cassidy
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