

Say More - Miranda July and Esther Perel on The Rebirth of Desire
63 snips Sep 23, 2024
Miranda July, a celebrated writer and artist known for her novel "All Fours," joins Esther Perel to explore the nuances of desire in modern relationships. They delve into the tension between domesticity and eroticism, discussing how vulnerability fosters emotional security. The conversation touches on sustaining intimacy over time and the delicate balance between freedom and safety in relationships. Through personal anecdotes, they highlight the intersection of identity, desire, and the complexities of communication, emphasizing the importance of self-care and exploration in reigniting passion.
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Selfish Change
- Change is selfish when it prioritizes personal needs over others'.
- Motherhood demands selflessness, so prioritizing personal change can feel selfish.
Vulnerability in Early Relationships
- Miranda July and her girlfriend experienced early relationship anxieties.
- Open communication about vulnerability brought them closer and eased these fears.
Outsourcing Fear
- Relationship tension often involves one fearing loss of the other, the other fearing loss of self.
- Each outsources the fear they're less comfortable with, creating an imbalance.